Point-Counterpoint 2: Counter-counter-point?

Josh: I think it is blatantly obvious that halo3 is superior in all aspects

Aaron: Superior to what?

Josh: I think the answer to that question is blatantly obvious as well considering the subject of the discussion.

Jon says: Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games. Honestly, Nintendo has enough "let's play tons of mini games" games.

Aaron: Mario and Sonic is such a fun game though it plays well and it isn't a lets play mini games game.

Jon: A lot of the mini games in Mario and Sonic don't work very well and how is not a "let's play tons of mini-games" game?

Josh: They easily could have put all of the games in it into Mario party.

Aaron: It's more like a way of saying "don't worry sonic will be good in brawl and us (Nintendo) working with Sega wont destroy the fabric of reality." Sadly people believe that.

Jon: yes, but public messages don't make good games...

Aaron: I don't know about that, Josh? What did you think of M&S?


Josh: I think it's exactly the same as Mario Party, except there's no board to go around

Jon: they could have at least put online play in...

Josh: they even have the same splash screen where you can read the instructions before each event/mini game and online play would be pretty boring since the only mini game that you actually play with other people in is ping pong which, by the way, is very very similar to Wii tennis.

Aaron: Hmm, i see the comparison but saying its a weak game isn't fair. It's still fun its one of those games one will never get bored of, halo three will get boring when 4 is released

Josh: ... no halo 4 will be released

Aaron: and fencing is multi player Josh.

Jon: How does a weak game not get boring?

Aaron: Josh how can you be sure?

Jon: That doesn't make sense and yeah, halo was a trilogy they're not making a halo 4, but they are making other games in the halo universe.

Josh: With the exception of hitch hiker's guide, all trilogies are in 3 (in case you didn't know that, Aaron)

Aaron: First of all M&S is one of those games that one can just pick up and play and doesn't get old.

Josh: I think that Mario & Sonic would get old faster than halo3 would

Jon: yes, most definitely

Aaron: on an other note halo 3 didn't bring anything new from #2

Josh: ...have you even played halo3?

Aaron: Yes, i didn't care for it.

Jon: another "lets play tons of mini games" game isn't new at all
even if halo 3 doesn't have "too" much new stuff, it definitely still has a bunch

Aaron: But halo 3 was like lets give halo 2 a makeover and change the 2 to a 3

Josh: You could argue that that is true of any sequel


Jon: what sequel completely changes the way a game is played?

Aaron: well the second game in any series tends to be the worst we discovered this a few days ago. So if Halo 3 is just and improvement of 2 what does that make it?


Josh: Better than Mario & sonic

Jon says: they perfected the game play in halo 3 you can't deny that...

Aaron: Well is a comparison of a party game and a fps game even fair?

Josh: If you are trying to state that fps games are always better than party games, then why would they even bother making party games?


Aaron: Because most fps games suck when you have people playing with you

Jon: huh?

Josh: I disagree

Jon: most fps games are meant to be played with other people.... multi player is probably the best aspect of halo 3.

Aaron:i mean offline

Jon: Although the campaign was pretty awesome well honestly, online is the future of multi player practically everyone has Internet access now

Josh: and 4-way halo3 is pretty fun too


Jon: even Nintendo, who was reluctant at first, is putting online multi player into their games now

Aaron: It may be true but Mario and Sonic is one of those party games where people see you doing the crazy movements and want to play with you.

Jon: Umm...

Aaron: people see you playing halo and want to play but the second they pick up a controller it doesn't seem anywhere near as great.

Jon: huh? Quite the opposite in fact a lot of the mini games in Mario and Sonic are quite clumsy

Aaron: But people see you playing them and want to join despite how clumsy they look or play

Josh: If I saw one person spinning their arms randomly in circles, and another hitting people with a gravity hammer, I would go play with the latter


Jon: i think that's fairly true in general.

Josh: maybe we should stop now (esp. considering this is pretty long for a post) and have a poll!


Jon: With all the halo hype, it's even arguable that halo 3 appeals more to casual gamers than a game like Mario and Sonic.

Aaron: Okay so to conclude we want the readers to post which kind of game they would like to play a zany party game, or the over hyped FPS.